Seeking Red/ White or Blue/ White Merle bitch pup/ or pup upto 6 months old.

* Short coat.
* Working Bloodlines- Alot of Bark/Force.
Willing to wait on upcoming litters.
Please PM me if you have a pup or upcoming litter that may suit.

Cheers
Breaker

Be sure to enquire through the puppy register of the Koolie Club of Australia.
Louise will let you know if there are any litters on the ground, you can find her through the club web page under contacts.
All the best with your hunt.

Thanks...still on the search.
Have you heard or know much about "BORAHVIEW" KOOLIES.(Working koolies.)??
Located in Gunnadah

Hi Breaker

The simplest information we can give you, is they are past members of the club and this forum. They won't be members again.

Hi there Breaker, I own a Borahview dog and he is everything I ever wanted. He is a beautiful black merle boy with all the coolie qualities. He is in Training fro herding and agility and has blown the competition out of the water so far. He went thru a herding clinic with Bill Berhow of San Fransisco USA and he only had good things to say about the breed since it was his first time working with one. I love my Borahview boy, excellent quality coolie. This is just my 2 cents worth

Hi just throwing my 2 cents in as well.
leecos I don't know why but I get this feeling your not from Austrlalia, please correct me if I'm wrong.

This is all I can say personaly on the matter, when a breeder tells a buyer that they can only buy the Koolie if they never have it DNA tested it has to make you think.

All Koolies will be identified through the breed testing that is underway, any Koolies not recognised by this testing the general public will assume they are not Koolies.

So all Koolie Club members if you haven't as yet had your Koolie DNA collected, on your bike.

It's lovely to be happy with your Koolie and leecos I'm thrilled that you are with yours, not pushing or trying to start anything, but are you a member and have you had your Koolie DNA tested.

You may be new and don't know that it's available.

LEECOS- don't take any of this that your dog is not a Koolie or is any less, regardless where your dog is from it is welcomed here & it is the owners actions only that will be questioned here that is all, it has nothing at all to do with which side of the fence people acquire dogs from we love them all & all deserve to be treated equally unlike in other areas of the Koolie community. The KCA offers great means for owners & breeders to get accurate knowledge of their Koolie in genetic terms & the outcomes aren't judged it's purely about gaining genetic data on a breed so we can make informed choices as well as better the breed.

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I've been told that as well by someone that has a Boraview dog, I keep my nose out of it as I mean I admit I have seen some Baraview dogs locally that are nice looking dogs, but I just wonder about motives behind things like that when DNA testing would put them in a higher status as a breeder.

I mean if they have a 'thing' about the KCA & it's members (like a few out there lets admit) then that is one thing...but DNA is a means to justify themselves regardless, whether they have something to hide or not telling people they must never DNA test doesn't give leave much room for motive interpretation.

Mushoz is right leecos.
The club, its members and we here on this forum, do not judge.

We have our own experiences and opinions and this forum is not the place to air them.

Anyone personally enquiring about certain breeders may be informed of files that may be held on them, these are reports such as you read here, complaints etc.

It is a bit like the responsibility issue, where do you draw the line.

There are some very bad, backyard breeders out there, breeders for profit, who care not what they put in the mix so long as they can sell it, and they tear anyone apart who they may think are their competition or threat and I am not pointing fingers.

You may already be familiar with this treatment.

You will find these people operating in all breeds, and there is very little we can do about it, until laws are made that will bring about positive changes, but the problems are many and there is no one simple solution.

Yes there is no place for slander, but I think healthy discussion about others out there where is people do have an experience with someone they are unsure about can bring it up, but it should never get nasty or be more than just a highlight of an experience.

In the case of Borahview in this thread, when a question about them as breeders is raised then info should be offered providing it is nothing slanderous that damages another's reputation, but I think honesty from members is also important, if someone has a good experience voice it, if others haven't voice it but don't be nasty about it.

I have honestly heard a mix of good & bad from Barahview so thats what I bring to it.

I think if people have a strong experience & opinion it should be discussed via PM/email as it can be damaging for info like that on a public forum.

I'm replying to this post as President of the Koolie Club of Australia. I've been requested to have this post stopped or edited by the moderators as someone has taken offence.
I am not a moderator for this forum.
I have read the posts and see no need to make any corrections to what has been posted. I've seen much worse posted on forums but I'm not inviting bad behaviour.
Although I will clarify one point, Borahview do not have access to DNA information as Borahview are not members of the Koolie Club of Australia. Only the KCA have access to our DNA partners.
Anyone who has further issues with the content of this post ahould address their issues to the forum moderators by e-mail.
Thanks, Danny Ruben

Well I guess I have some questions here, like why would you ask me if my dogs have been DNA tested if you know that Borahview doesnt have access to your DNA test? And what exactly is this test for, genetic defects, liniages, merle type? I have never heard of this before. And I thought this topic was about Breaker looking for a pup, not about my dog, i was offering my experience as a Borahview dog owner to someone that was inquirying, did not think the topic would stray so much, may I ask why it did? it is hard for me to not take offence but I will try mushoz, As to answer your question about my dog being tested, you obviously know the answer to that question as Danny Ruben, your president pointed out. And my dogs are registered thank you for asking, I really hope this forum is not like the "other" one, so far ...??

Hi Leecos, you may have access to your own DNA tester but Borahview does not have access to the KCAs tester.

This post is about Breaker looking for a pup so lets get back on topic.

There may be other posts about DNA withing the forum. Try the search function.

Regards, Danny

back on topic, sorry Breaker.

Any luck finding a pup?

I agree with Danny,

As far as editing the posts...no this is not warranted...and it will not be happening, only problem I see... is that it has gone off topic.

Leecos


No it is not

Although this is keeping the thread off topic, it is the relevant place to say that although the Koolie Pedigree Assurance Program is run by the KCA to recognize DNA tested, micro-chipped, registered dogs...as the authorised tester for our DNA lab, I have agreed to test any koolie that an owner requests be tested on behalf of the lab so that all koolie enquiries they receive are then automatically referred to me. They do not receive recognition under the program but data can be used for parent verification and it also adds to the pool of data available for analysis.

So Leecos you are welcome to submit DNA. I am glad you are so happy with your dog. That is the most important thing. Boraview are also welcome to submit DNA in the same way.

As club members will know we are working toward finding a koolie gene (many breeds have been recognize through DNA already) and new software that has been developed recently will also nominate what "family" of koolies each dog belongs to and what percentage of another breed may be present...hence some problems could be perceived. But for anyone considering breeding their dog no matter where it came from it will be an incredibly valuable tool in future.

I agree that email and pm may be more relevant when discussing another breeder here, whereas elsewhere on the internet there is only open slather, but once a question is asked is it fair to not answer in someway?

Everybody is welcome here as long as they behave in a respectable manner, some have ignored that requirement and are now banished for good reason.

Breaker, will pm you with a breeder who I believe had one female pup left from their last litter.

Hello as you can see everyone can contribute.

Don't be offended when no offence was intended.
This forum is as you have been told a friendly non abusive place.

Pm and email are here as explained and big brother is watching.
I responded to Breakers enquiery as did Leecos.

So we now agree she likes them and I don't, two differences of opinion but no abuse and it is finished and out of the way.

Thanks to everyone for their great input, this forum rocks.

Breaker do let us know if you are successful with the Brescot girl.

If not would a Koolie rescue pup do?

Email me if you want more info