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Bluedog
We've been having some lovely weather up here and with OH on hols we've been going to Redhead Beach for some walks with Paxy. She enjoys the running and we take her special large floating ball with us that she can see in the water!

Yesterday we were well into our walk and had noticed a few bluebottles on the beach and carefully stepping around them. Paxy had taken no notice previously. She ran past this one with the ball in her mouth dropped it, air scented and then found it and proceeded to pick it up. The stinger must have stuck on her tongue a bit because she was flipping it about a bit and no command of "leave it" which she is usually good at would work and of course she kept dancing away. Anyway down it went. OMG! Well we immediately turned around but at least 40min walk from the car so we watched her carefully.

She was still bouncing around and while she still wanted the ball thrown she didn't want to touch it with her mouth initially. So we carried it for a while and she whined and carried on so OH threw it and she caught it and then we noticed a thin stream of drool. We gave her a bit of a drink back at the car and went home. She didn't seem to have any other symptoms of toxins (and no anaphylatic shock like bee stings!) and I did a quick google search at home which was pretty bare and she was running around barking like mad so pretty normal really! So rang the emergency vet just in case they said bring her in we'll see if she can vomit it up. So off we go at 8.15pm.

She's very good at the vet, all there pretty incredulous at what she'd done though! Anyway they checked her over and did a vet net search and revealed that really the only problem would be if bluebottle was rotting she might get a gut infection. So we have some Peptosyl (sp?) 3 times a day for a couple of days. No known problems with dogs eating bluebottles. That's the good news.

This is when we get to the HOWEVER. Her heart beat was 70/min. Which would apparently be OK if she was a Great Dane. So off she went for a 5 min ECG where she managed to get up to 100/min because she was nervous. Vet said normal range for her should be 120/min and nerves should take it up to 160. ECG was normal, he didn't think it was an electrical problem and not related to her heart murmur. He seemed to think it might be related to the vagus nerve which can control pulse, breathing. So basically he said to try and take her pulse throughout the day after activity, while sleeping etc to get an idea of her normal. He is sending a report to our normal vet and he said she may have to wear a halti for 24hrs (like the human version) to record pulse rate. The main reason being that if her heart rate starts to fall to 60 or below she will start to have fainting episodes and may struggle with any activity. So ... I feel a little blue today. needaHug.gif

I was really proud of her though she behaved beautifully being checked by unknowns and was a little concerned when her bottom beeped when her temp was taken but wanted to kiss the vet when he was listening to her heart. She was pretty calm and although she wanted to go she was patient and well mannered! Finally got home just before 10pm and she and I had dinner and then to bed! Both a wee bit tired!
royalla
poor paxy, in a way the bluebottle turned out to be a blessing now you know her heart beat is slow so if she does pass out on you at least you know what is happening and can let the vet know as soon as you get there.
Bluedog
It's always good to know what could happen and what to do if it does!

Just been talking to a professional trainer who has working dogs/protection dogs and mentioned Paxy's heart rate and he said it is quite common for working dogs who are very fit to have a low heart rate and it's something that a lot of vets don't understand. So I feel a little better about it now but will still be watching her with an eagle eye!
trentrenae
Poor Paxy. Lucky the blue bottle didnt effect her. But it was a god send really.
KoolieMum
Paxy!! That's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard of a dog eating! Yuck.

What a strange thing about her heart rate. It will be good to put a heart monitor on her and see what it normally is and whether it changes much. Obviously it's never been so low at her normal vet visits, or someone would have commented on it.

I think perhaps the trainer should have said fit, *calm* dogs can have relatively low heart rates, just like human athletes. And perhaps he has something larger like GSD or Mals?
scouserdog
Poor Paxy - I cannot imagine anyone wanting to eat a bluebottle - one good thing about Perry is that she is not at all interested in found food.
Ceejay
That is the strangest thing I have ever heard a dog eating. She is a wonderful unique dog if that is the case. Sorry to hear about the low heart rate, do you think you will get a second opinion at all? I know that athletes have a lower heart rate due to their fitness levels. Hope it all goes well for you.
Bluedog
After she had the bee sting episode the vet noted she had a very low heart rate and urged me then to go and get the ultrasound for her heart murmur. When she had the ultrasound they never mentioned a slow heart rate. It's never been mentioned any other time though I'm not sure they've taken it at other times.
I tried taking her pulse yesterday after she'd been running around and I got 72bpm. She must be fit she doesn't stop moving! She loves swimming and if given the opportunity will spend more time in the water than out.
The trainer does have bigger dogs - Dobes and GSD's, so they will have a lower heart rate with their size.
Will consult with my vet at our next vist, as yet unplanned!
She's definitely in the unique category!
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