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Tjukurpa
Hi again
I'm calling on all members to help the Veterinary society identify an unusual occurrence that has happened to one of my Koolie.
Symptoms appeared around two months ago she began to take what could be described as fainting spells, slight loss of balance, you know a little wobbly, lasting only a few short seconds, then right as rain as though nothing had happened.
After the first recorded incident she had an episode around every couple of days, usually following exertion.
Blood tests were taken but were inconclusive, lead poisoning was indicated but ruled out through the blood test finding.
It was discovered that she was producing an increased amount of juvenile red blood cells, but the reason why could not be uncovered.
She was monitored and blood was taken again two weeks later again nothing dramatic, no answers.
By the time the second lot of bloods were taken, the episodes had ceased and she was back to normal, even while she was having them, she in herself was fine, good appetite, sleeping pattern, though I noticed along with her turns, her poo was the color of orange, not like the fruit, but not normal brown.
Then the turns stopped and for two weeks nothing, she was even back to full fitness and energy exertion.
Her blood results never really changed slightly higher in something’s but still well with in expected parameters.
All said and done there are no answers, it may have been anemia but her normal levels were never recorded so we can't compare, the vet feels that she may have been just at the end of an infection or just at the start, but she was monitored for nearly a month, you would have expected changes to happen one way or the other, so I feel that has been ruled out.
Being a working breed her levels which show normal for the average breed, may not be the correct reading for her, the vets feel it is possible that her levels may well be much higher than normally acceptable levels.
The other possibility could be a cardiac issue again her heart rhythm appears normal and does not offer any real indication that there is a problem.
So she will continue to be monitored and hopefully a solution will be discovered.
The turns have begun again so she is not cured.
If you have had or know anyone who has had a Koolie display similar symptoms please post.
Any type of dizziness or seizures, passing out, glazed eyes, wobbliness or unsteadiness on the feet, unexplained falling over or tripping even collapsing could all be related to this as yet unidentified illness, you could be a great help not only to my girl who is just three years old but to Koolies of the future.
Hope to see your posts soon. cool.gif
jack
Hi All,

I have heard of this same thing happening to a lot of Kelpie pup's over the years
usually at an early age.
A few people that bought a pup from a local breeder asked if this was a problem with a few I'm sure returning these pup's.
As far as I know this is quite common in pup's from some litters only and is assumed by the local vets to a be a sort of adverse reaction to the Vaccinations
that are given to pup's to stave off disease.
I don't think that I have ever heard of this being a problem long term as they all seem to sort themselves out by the age of 6 months.

Jack Wilja Koolies
jack
Hi Chief,

Just a question after my earlier post

think back to when these instances re accured and see if these episodes are shortley after vaccination.

A fe dogs that were tested by local vets in the past (kelpies) were the same normal everything but fainting, wobbly etc.Not on a constant basis but very brief episodes.

The solution may be as simple as this. They should be over it by the age of 6 months

Jack Wilaj Koolies
Tjukurpa
Thanks Jack, will keep that in mind.
My girl is nearly four now and has never had a sick day in her life.
But we seem to have cracked the mystery.
Dehydration!
I discovered my Velcro girl actually doesn't drink when I am at home working on the computer, she may not drink up to 14 hours.
Now she goes out to play with the others and drinks when I ask her and we have not had another episode.
I will be talking with our Vet on Monday to see if he concurred with our theory.
Will let you know more then.
I understand that Kelpie pups can have what they are calling shakers disease where they literally shake themselves to death, loosing total motor control by the age of 6 weeks, I don’t know how bad it is but it has been reported that it is in some of the biggest kennels so I suppose if your interested in the Kelpie it's something to keep in mind.
happy.gif Yippee Yahoo we have been given a clean bill of health. eusadance.gif

So the next time your Koolies begin to show wobbliness in the legs or get a vague look in their eyes get some water into them, even put them in water, even though my girl never showed heat stress many owners now inform me that their dogs do after long stretches of intense work around yard, truck etc become affected by the lack of water.
The curse of being too obedient and loyal.
So keep an eye on your Koolies their precious.
And too much heat stress too often can lead to mental damage.
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